The truth about the orange order is that year in, year out their marches are accompanied by violence, despite a so-called peace process.The Orange Order was created almost 200 years ago to deliberately incite sectarian strife to divide, conquer and enable the British colonial domination in Ireland. The Orange Order was exclusively Protestant, pro-British and murderously anti-Catholic. The British colonial authorities mentored the Orange Order,with its vicious sectarianism to drive a wedge between both communities to subjugate the native Irish.
A call has now been made for the Church of Ireland to disassociate completely itself from the Orange Order, in the wake of the most recent loyalist rioting in North Belfast. According to the Irish Times:
"Independent David Norris expressed his disgust at the rioting after Orange Order marchers were refused permission to return on their July 12th parade via a 300 metres section of the route that passed by a Nationalist area.
Mr Norris described the behaviour of loyalist rioters as “stupid”.
He added: “When they were prisoners they were like Neanderthals. They were reading comics and doing press-ups whereas the ‘Shinners’ for whom I wouldn’t give a toss, at least had the intelligence to do university degrees.”
He told the Seanad that as a southern unionist “I am bitterly ashamed of the behaviour of people who call themselves Unionists and Protestants. They are a disgrace to any decent representation of those values.
“I would like to call on the Church of Ireland to which I belong to disassociate themselves completely from the Orange Order. It has shrivelled down to a third of its original support.”
He also said: “I would like to suggest that no decent Christian minister, pastor or parishioner should be associated with the Orange Order.” And he called on the Rev Ian Paisley “who did his best to stir up hatred that led to all the violence. . . let him come out now and undo some of the harm he did by denouncing the violence.”
Richard Wallace wrote of the Orange Order in the Blanket as follows;
"When I think of the violent nature of the Orange Order, I am drawn to thesimilarities of the KKK. In both organizations, the “perpetrators of enslavement” are White Anglo Saxon Protestant, i.e., English WASP. Both are secret organizations designed to strike terror into the hearts of their target in order to maintain dominance over a group they consider inferior; both were given their privilege by the English. The Orange order and the KKK are cousin organizations with identical purpose, method and motivation.
The Orange Order was formed in 1795 as a militant Protestant organization, whose purpose was to preserve English Protestant privilege and supremacy over the Native Irish whose land their fathers stole. They pilfered their name from William of Orange who defeated the English King James in 1690, 105 years earlier. James was Catholic, so the name "Orange" was chosen for only one reason, because it successfully incited the English-Scottish Protestant population against the native Irish who were predominantly Catholic. The Orangemen were organized and officered by the English Protestant landowners and Belfast businessmen, and they immediately launched a reign of terror on the Native Irish, and that reign of terror was not limited to the Catholic majority. The Ulster Plantation derives its name from the phrase "Transplantation of English Society". Their sole purpose is to terrorize and murder the Irish to reinforce their claim to stolen lands and resources.
The KKK was organized in Pulaske, Tennessee in 1866 as a secret militant White Anglo Saxon Protestant organization, whose purpose was to preserve white privilege and supremacy over African Americans, whom they called "Niggers". They formed immediately after the Blacks were emancipated, that is "freed from forced slavery". First they assassinated President Lincoln for freeing the Blacks, then the always clever WASP's invented "convict leasing", whereby the large plantations owners could lease prisoners from the State. These newly freed blacks soon found themselves behind bars, working on the same plantations they had been freed from. These plantation owners and the State representatives were predominantly Protestant descendants of the English Plantation slave owners. This is the identical status quo as in Northern Ireland society. The KKK assumed the mantle of the Knights of the Golden Circle, an earlier English invention. The KKK took its name from the Greek "Ku Klos" meaning Circle, and the English word "Clan"; i.e., the English Circle. The term plantation comes from the phrase "Transplantation of English Society". The Orange Order and the KKK have identical agendas and identical modes of operation. The KKK is the epitome of the violence visited upon the blacks by their WASP neighbors. The Orange Order is the epitome of the violence visited upon the Native Irish by their WASP neighbors.
Both organizations carry out a campaign of terror, beatings, burnings of churches and homes, bombings, shootings, rapes, and intimidations. They burn children in their homes and nail men to fence posts in the day. They lynch men in the middle of the night and rape and abuse their women. The KKK and the OO both strike terror into the hearts of the innocents.
A call has now been made for the Church of Ireland to disassociate completely itself from the Orange Order, in the wake of the most recent loyalist rioting in North Belfast. According to the Irish Times:
"Independent David Norris expressed his disgust at the rioting after Orange Order marchers were refused permission to return on their July 12th parade via a 300 metres section of the route that passed by a Nationalist area.
Mr Norris described the behaviour of loyalist rioters as “stupid”.
He added: “When they were prisoners they were like Neanderthals. They were reading comics and doing press-ups whereas the ‘Shinners’ for whom I wouldn’t give a toss, at least had the intelligence to do university degrees.”
He told the Seanad that as a southern unionist “I am bitterly ashamed of the behaviour of people who call themselves Unionists and Protestants. They are a disgrace to any decent representation of those values.
“I would like to call on the Church of Ireland to which I belong to disassociate themselves completely from the Orange Order. It has shrivelled down to a third of its original support.”
He also said: “I would like to suggest that no decent Christian minister, pastor or parishioner should be associated with the Orange Order.” And he called on the Rev Ian Paisley “who did his best to stir up hatred that led to all the violence. . . let him come out now and undo some of the harm he did by denouncing the violence.”
Richard Wallace wrote of the Orange Order in the Blanket as follows;
"When I think of the violent nature of the Orange Order, I am drawn to thesimilarities of the KKK. In both organizations, the “perpetrators of enslavement” are White Anglo Saxon Protestant, i.e., English WASP. Both are secret organizations designed to strike terror into the hearts of their target in order to maintain dominance over a group they consider inferior; both were given their privilege by the English. The Orange order and the KKK are cousin organizations with identical purpose, method and motivation.
The Orange Order was formed in 1795 as a militant Protestant organization, whose purpose was to preserve English Protestant privilege and supremacy over the Native Irish whose land their fathers stole. They pilfered their name from William of Orange who defeated the English King James in 1690, 105 years earlier. James was Catholic, so the name "Orange" was chosen for only one reason, because it successfully incited the English-Scottish Protestant population against the native Irish who were predominantly Catholic. The Orangemen were organized and officered by the English Protestant landowners and Belfast businessmen, and they immediately launched a reign of terror on the Native Irish, and that reign of terror was not limited to the Catholic majority. The Ulster Plantation derives its name from the phrase "Transplantation of English Society". Their sole purpose is to terrorize and murder the Irish to reinforce their claim to stolen lands and resources.
The KKK was organized in Pulaske, Tennessee in 1866 as a secret militant White Anglo Saxon Protestant organization, whose purpose was to preserve white privilege and supremacy over African Americans, whom they called "Niggers". They formed immediately after the Blacks were emancipated, that is "freed from forced slavery". First they assassinated President Lincoln for freeing the Blacks, then the always clever WASP's invented "convict leasing", whereby the large plantations owners could lease prisoners from the State. These newly freed blacks soon found themselves behind bars, working on the same plantations they had been freed from. These plantation owners and the State representatives were predominantly Protestant descendants of the English Plantation slave owners. This is the identical status quo as in Northern Ireland society. The KKK assumed the mantle of the Knights of the Golden Circle, an earlier English invention. The KKK took its name from the Greek "Ku Klos" meaning Circle, and the English word "Clan"; i.e., the English Circle. The term plantation comes from the phrase "Transplantation of English Society". The Orange Order and the KKK have identical agendas and identical modes of operation. The KKK is the epitome of the violence visited upon the blacks by their WASP neighbors. The Orange Order is the epitome of the violence visited upon the Native Irish by their WASP neighbors.
Both organizations carry out a campaign of terror, beatings, burnings of churches and homes, bombings, shootings, rapes, and intimidations. They burn children in their homes and nail men to fence posts in the day. They lynch men in the middle of the night and rape and abuse their women. The KKK and the OO both strike terror into the hearts of the innocents.
They both strike under cover of night, (in Ireland they strike in full daylight) with the help of State police collusion. It took the full power of the U.S. Government, led by an Irish Catholic, President John F. Kennedy, and the inspiration of Martin Luther King, a Black man, to break the KKK. The always vengeful WASP’s assassinated both John Kennedy and Martin Luther King.
In its peak, the KKK had 4.5 million members, mostly White Anglo-Saxon Protestants. Today they number in the mere thousands. The Civil Rights Organization in Derry modeled themselves after Martin Luther King, but they were gunned down in broad daylight by Government Sponsored (WASP) assassins. Martin Luther King was assassinated by a die-hard holdout of white supremacy in spite of the fact that he no longer had the support and protection of the State.
Don't look to the British to Break the Orange Order any time soon, and forget their paid-for puppets in Dublin. The British cherish their Orange card, all 60,000 of them wagging the tail of the dog, as it is their trump card. Northern Ireland is their boot camp, where they train their military, with live targets.
The British military send new recruits to Northern Ireland, and when they have done a year or two of terrorizing unarmed civilians, they are then categorized as battle hardened soldiers, qualified to go into battle anywhere. Without NorthernIreland in turmoil, the British have no excuse for even having a military.
Its a terrible thing for the Irish to kill Irish, on behalf of the Queen of England."
In its peak, the KKK had 4.5 million members, mostly White Anglo-Saxon Protestants. Today they number in the mere thousands. The Civil Rights Organization in Derry modeled themselves after Martin Luther King, but they were gunned down in broad daylight by Government Sponsored (WASP) assassins. Martin Luther King was assassinated by a die-hard holdout of white supremacy in spite of the fact that he no longer had the support and protection of the State.
Don't look to the British to Break the Orange Order any time soon, and forget their paid-for puppets in Dublin. The British cherish their Orange card, all 60,000 of them wagging the tail of the dog, as it is their trump card. Northern Ireland is their boot camp, where they train their military, with live targets.
The British military send new recruits to Northern Ireland, and when they have done a year or two of terrorizing unarmed civilians, they are then categorized as battle hardened soldiers, qualified to go into battle anywhere. Without NorthernIreland in turmoil, the British have no excuse for even having a military.
Its a terrible thing for the Irish to kill Irish, on behalf of the Queen of England."
Saturday June 15, 2013 17:03
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Jump To Comment: 1 2 3 4 5 6Bearing in mind we are constantly being told, that we are in a Peace Process, not wartime Ireland, those supremacist bigoted Tories in London or sectarian Orange Order Loyalists in Belfast, who dismiss Martin Corey’s political internment, as relevant only to traditional Irish Republicans’ or just to the scum state of British Occupied Ireland, would do well to remember the words of their great Tory leader Winston Churchill who wrote;
Habeas corpus and trial by jury are the supreme protection of ordinary people from the state. The power of the state casting a man into prison without formulating charge or deny him judgment by his peers is the odious foundation of totalitarian governments.
To be precise Winston Churchill wrote: “The power of the Executive to cast a man into prison without formulating any charge known to the law and particularly to deny him the judgement of his peers is in the highest degree odious and is the foundation of all totalitarian government whether Nazi or Communist.”
To be further precise, Winston who defeated the Nazi's, I am sure would also agree, that whatever else, neither the Tories or the Orange order can be accused of being communists, so by the very own standards, of their greatest leader, they are most definitively NAZI.
Her Majesty's working class 'commoners' would do well also, to remember the words of the German anti-Nazi theologian Martin Niemöller: "First they came for the communists, and I didn't speak out because I wasn't a communist. Then they came for the trade unionists, and I didn't speak out because I wasn't a trade unionist. Then they came for the Jews,
and I didn't speak out because I wasn't a Jew.
“Then they came for me and there was no one left to speak out for me”
The action of the unelected British Viceroyal and the Government’s Office in overturning a decision of the Belfast High Court, to release veteran Republican Martin Corey, confirms the default position of the British, Peace Process or not, when dealing with Irish working class, as unadulterated, naked, bloody repression.
All the lofty talk of the rule of British law, upon which the British Monarchial state is supposedly based, counts for nothing, when it comes to dealing with those in British Occupied Ireland or elsewhere, whose only "crime’ is to seek self determination for their respective communities or nations.
In Martin Corey's case, the British state has dumped their 800 year old Magna Carta, their Habeas Corpus from the time of their own King John, and courts of a fair and transparent trial, in order to block the release of a traditional Irish Republican, without a shred of credible evidence for "the judgement of his peers" to quote Churchill again.
The political internment of Martin Corey has lifted the veil of secrecy, on the rotten nature, of the scum state of British Occupied Ireland by the standards of any objective, civilized, international observer.
The British repression and brutality visited on Martin Corey, constitutes not only an attack on Martin’s human rights, not only an attack on the human and civil rights of people in British Occupied Ireland but an attack on all ordinary people, referred to as commoners, by their medieval Monarchy, not modern day citizens.
The apologists for sectarian Stormont and the political power sharing arrangements, propagating the illusion, that everything is normal, speak of a new ‘human rights’ regime, with new policing and justice standards. On the day of the recent release, of the interned Marian Price, the President of Provisional Sinn Fein, a principal partner in the power sharing British regime, Gerry Adams himself said, “The logic of today’s release is that Martin Corey should also be freed.”
Now Mr Adams, with all due respect to the part your party played, in the release of Marian Price, after three long years of internment without public charge, reason or time frame, in the instance of 63 year old Martin Corey, there comes a time to walk the talk, to take responsibility as in even the most pretentious democracy.
You sold the Peace Process on a power sharing basis to your movement. I and others like me were willing to give you the benefit of considerable doubt, for the sake of peace. Your Nationalist predecessor the non republican SDLP, walked out of the Stormont parliament, with the introduction of internment without trial 40 years ago, while you own peace loving comrades are still being jailed, while the British are consistently breaking the terms of the peace process.
Enough is enough. You do have the power, mandated to you originally, by the hard work, hardship and commitment of FORMER political activists, like Martin Corey. You are obliged by principles of the 'Irish Republican Movement' from which you originate and derive your power originally, to use that power to dismantle what even the English Tory Churchill referred to as: “The power of the Executive to cast a man into prison without formulating any charge known to the law and particularly to deny him the judgement of his peers is in the highest degree odious and is the foundation of all totalitarian government whether Nazi or Communist.”
Mr Adam's, strip away the spin and dross of the current Tory dismantled and discredited 'peace process', the reality of what remains, is the same discredited, sectarian, undemocratic, colonial scum state, with its speclal courts of repression, special laws of repression and a still colonial police force of the RUC/PSNI, to politically police the dictat of a Monarchial tin-pot dictator. Nothing has changed in terms of the repression of the British Crown towards the native Irish people of British Occupied Ireland ask Martin's neighbours.
With a heavy and reluctant heart, I have to report nothing has changed within the British Sectarian Stormont parliament, in the cozy relationship of Britain and it's well oiled middle class career politicians, despite the odd outburst of electioneering bluster, chasing the Queen's shilling, at the expense the of the people of no property, such as the politically interned Martin Corey.
As a former chairperson of Newry Sinn Fein, I'm calling you out Comrade Adams. Be a man, take responsibility, instruct you party to exercise their political mandate, like the SDLP did all those years ago, and inform the Tories of your party's intention, to withdraw from the British parliament of Stormont, until their odious internment without trial, of ordinary Irish people is finished once and for all.
Peace with Justice
Anois a chairde, tagaigi uile Ta an cogadh deiridh ar suil! Aontaionn an tidirnaisiunta An cine daonna go leir! Nil trust ar bith againn i dtaoisigh Na suil le slanaitheoir o neamh 's muid ag braith ar ar lamha feinig Chun saol nua a bhaint amach! Os muid a chruthaios gach saibhreas, Os muid a throideas gach cath Aontaithe le chiele gan aon aighneas Is againn a bheas an rath Anois a chairde, tagaigi uile Ta an cogadh deiridh ar suil! Aontaionn an tidirnaisiunta An cine daonna go leir
The Cause of Ireland is the Cause of Labour - James Connolly
If I simply wanted votes, i would be still in Provisional Sinn Fein but you see i am not a careerist politician. I am not sure you noticed but this thread is not about me, it's about Martin Corey who doesn't have a life right now, because imperialists, or to be more accurate, uncivilized pirates, who learned their trade from the Roman Empire, invaded his community and he was unselish enough 40 years ago, to defend that community.
Martin was neither charged or given reason or trial as in a civilized country and his life of freedom has been being taken away from him. His local lawyer Rosemary Nelson, who would normally defend him, was murdered by the same state imperialist British forces, but then he wasn't even given a trial. He therefore has to go to the European Court of Human Rights, where Britain was already found guilty o f torture of Martin's comrades, interned 4o years ago, to try get justice.
The lawyer Pat Finucan, who was an expert on European Law in Belfast, was also murdered by British state forces. Now that doesn't leave Martin with many options, other than to plead his case with the public despite considerable British censorship but then Martin's local journalist was also murdered by British state forces, that's why I am here ,trying to do the best I can, as a citizen(not commoner) journalist.
Seeing as you learned your craft from Imperial Rome and bearing in mind your good name, Mr. Ivor Bigun, I have a friend who is wondering if you knew this fellow dinosaur in the video below? With regard to getting a life , I already got one, a very good one, thank you, you see I am a freeman. Life is short Ivor and we pass this way but once, everything after that for me at this stage, is a bonus but community like life, is bigger than the self, as you will no doubt learn one day, when life puts manners on you as it does with us all, ask Maggie Thatcher, who said their is no such thing as community.
pompeii_mosaic
The town of Lurgan and the associated towns of Portadown and Craigavon, make up part of what has been known as the "murder triangle"; an area known for a significant number of state sponsored sectarian murders and reactionary defensive fatalities, during 'The Troubles.' Lurgan still is one of the areas in British Occupied Ireland, where traditional republicans have considerable levels of support. The legacy of the latest 'Troubles' is an extension of the ongoing British mentored Loyalist sectarianism, against the native Irish population, which sometimes erupts into violence at 'interface areas.'
At the early part of the 70's, the British were sponsoring, over a hundred heavily armed local British soldiers, along with scores of British paramilitary police, in an area known as 'The Murder Triangle', to regularly murder local nationalists, many of them totally innocent of any political activity, in a campaign of repressive fear oppression and ethnic cleansing. One of the first inquiries to shed light on this form of intelligence-led policing and fear based ethnic cleansing, was the Stalker Inquiry.
John Stalker an honest English policeman, was asked in May 1984 to investigate six deaths at the hands of the RUC in three separate incidents in 1982. Before he had completed his investigation this honest policeman from Manchester, was removed from the inquiry and suspended from his post in the Greater Manchester Police (GMP) on suspicion of associating with known criminals in Manchester. He was later cleared and reinstated but retired within a few months, the damage to the investigation was done.
In his book on the affair, John Stalker, gives his impression of RUC Special Branch after investigating two of the incidents. The Special Branch targeted the suspected terrorist, they briefed the officers, and after the shootings, they removed the men, cars and guns for a private de-briefing before CID officers were allowed any access to these crucial matters. They provided the cover stories, and they decided at what point the CID were to be allowed, to commence the official investigation of what had occurred. The Special Branch interpreted the information and decided what was, or was not, evidence. "I had never experienced, nor had any of my team, such an influence, over an entire police force by one small section".
He described at length the way the Special Branch and MI5 gave him the run-around and refused to give him vital information. He had discovered that in one of the incidents, in which two people had been shot in a hayshed, the building had been bugged by MI5. He had requested access to the tape and the file of the informant who had been involved in this and one of the other incidents.
Some six months after first requesting the tape, he was told that it no longer existed, but he could have the transcript provided he signed a secrecy form. He refused so Special Branch and MI5 did not allow an independent police investigator access to crucial information. The protection of their informer took precedence over accountability and transparency. Stalker’s persistence had dire personal consequences. He was subsequently removed from the inquiry on carefully circulated lies.These are the same people to this day who decide who is interned without trial on the unreliable paid evidence of self serving informers. This is the secret SS scum state that interns Martin Corey today. To understand the 22 years spent behind bars by Martin Corey, we must understand this war on ordinary Irish people in their own land by British Imperialists.
In 1973 before Martin Corey served 22 years with regard to a shooting in defence of his community, a book entitled THE BLACK PAPER, Northern Ireland — The Story of the Police was published by the Central Citizens’ Defence Committee, Belfast. It sadly traces the attempt and breakdown of the reform of the police from the 1968 period onward. It concludes:
"All the wishing in the world will not achieve the impossible. There is no way out of this torturous dilemma but the more difficult way that must be faced up to sooner or later. Law and order will not return to British Occupied Ireland on any basis but one. It will have to be seen to apply equally and fairly, to everyone in the land, whatever their position, even if they wear a uniform or hold a seat in Parliament. Only when that is seen to be happening, will the laws gain the respect from the community upon which its validity rests. This respect had been lost in British Occupied Ireland. It must be regained and strengthened. When those who make the law, break the law, in the name of the law, there is no law."
The current use of internment without trial, secret evidence, secret trials, the primacy of secrecy around paid, informer's evidence and political policing, is certainly not the way to a lasting peace. Justice must not be just done, but must clearly seen to be done by all sections of the community. Anyone who ignore this reality, is a superficial careerist who is not genuinely interested in peace. It is the consistent position of traditional Irish republicans, that this is not possible within a scum state, within the small island of Ireland, created originally, strictly on the basis of a sectarian head count by the British to create division as in all of their colonies to justify their presence and maintain their self interests with exploitative supremacy.
Viceroyal Villiers II